Seeing so many of us using proprietary software for some of our most treasured possessions (our pictures, in flickr) has bugged me deeply this week. Just as bad, it strikes me as a fairly large and self-sustainable business opportunity- a small but growing number of people are willing to pay for services which give them the kind of control that flickr and others can’t or won’t give. Further, 37 Signals and other things has convinced me that it is possible to build small, basically self-financed web businesses. We now have millions of GNOME users out there; just 100,000 (hell, 10,000) GNOME users paying $5 a month for hardware, bandwidth and some software would finance a lot of software development. So I believe firmly there is a big opportunity out there for someone to do a free software based for-pay web service that integrates well with tools like f-spot, gnome-blog, evo, gossip, ekiga, nautilus, etc. It should be easy for GNOME users to sign up for one account, pay a small monthly or yearly fee, and be able to easily (no further configuration) publish their photos, blogs, etc., and communicate via email/jabber/voip/etc. Could be a small for-profit (like 37 Signals) or it could be the funding source for the first free-software cooperative. Either way, the opportunity is there for someone to do some agile, rapid development and have this in place soon.
20 thoughts on “guadec thoughts #3: where is .gnome?”
You can’t undo/redo through a remote users changes. You can type over then, delete them, put them in table, change font colour etc.. but you can’t undo them. Also as Marc said, we’re moving towards a Luis compliant business model too :-) Comments here
Several great posts from Luis. I mentioned it in passing a few posts ago, but I still think the “what is gnome?” on http://www.gnome.org could use a lot of work: “GNOME offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer.”
.gnubuntu Luis, something like this (as yet just a low priority specification, unlikely to be done any time soon unfortunately). (# :: posted 14 hours ago in Gnome :: Comment)
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Luis Villa is entirely right in asking where “our” flickr/blogger/online-storage place is. We talked about this a bit at Guadec (and about “gnome on rails” (which has nothing to do with Ruby, but is about being able to build Gnome apps really quickly and agilely, as you can build web apps). I keep thinking about doing something like
there are thousands of good ideas nobody is working on yet. Andwhat would it mean to start creating a coherent story across some ofthese projects, a vision for a completely free-software computingplatform for use by the general public? Luis hintedalready that a platform isn’t just libraries and driversanymore. Nor is it yet another Linux distribution.
Alex Graveley. Also the BoF session about the gnome.org revamp showed that there is a will to obtain in the mid term a more continuous and integrated user experience between the GNOME desktop and website. And now I see that Luis Villa has just posted some ideas in a similar direction, stressing the problem of ownership and leadership the desktop faces versus the growing universe of web applications. Additional links and pointers are welcomed.
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